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nicktheww2fanatic



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:48 pm    Post subject: stem wear Reply with quote

I recently finished my 2 1/2 year project, a 17'6" redbird. I have been fishing out of it, and taking short canoe trips all summer. I have extreme amounts of wear on the stem, its wearing through the fiberglass. How do I avoid this?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stop paddling it up on shore? Thinking

add a brass stem band?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 2nd degree sprain in one ankle, and am wearing a brace, so getting wet isn't a great idea...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sand off any varnish and smooth the rough areas, then apply several layers of fiberglass in the areas where the wear is the greatest.

You'll have to repeat this as the wear removes fiberglass with each additional beaching. Winter is the best time to do this, anticipating the wear and tear beforehand... enjoy your time spent out on the water.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:43 am    Post subject: stems Reply with quote

If you are going to add glass cloth to stems cut it on the bias that is on a 45 degree angle in strips and it will mold itself around the stems more easily

Denis

Still looking for summer here in the Kawathas Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just ordered some 2" fiberglass tape
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fiberglass tape is not ideal for this situation. You really need to cut some glass cloth at a 45 degree angle to the edge. Cut 1 piece about 3" wide, 1 about 5" wide and 1 about 7" wide. Sand the stems and about 4" wide down the sides. Apply the widest cloth, handle carefully as it tends to stretch out of shape. I apply a coat of epoxy to the work area then lay the cloth in place. Apply more epoxy and install the medium width cloth then repeat for the last piece. Squeegee carefully so as not to displace the cloth. Allow to set to green stage then scrape the rough edges away. Allow to set for a few days then sand with 80 grit nd 120 grit. Apply as many fill coats as required to bury the cloth. Allow to set a few days, sand with 120 grit and apply a few coats of your favorite varnish.

Go paddling.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is the fiberglass tape not ideal simply because of the width?

Here is my current plan:

7" wide bias cut
5" wide bias cut
4" wide bias cut
2" tape (x2)

sound good?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the fiberglass tape is bias-cut it will work but it will have a selvadge edge which can be difficult to scrape off. You are better off with the bias-cut glass routine. Also, add brass stem bands if possible.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kind of off topic but did you put a keel on your redbird?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If that question is for me, my canoe is a Hiawatha and it has no keel. I would never put a keel on a Redbird. The design itself takes care of any tracking issues.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ended up doing it, it looks good, hard to tell the difference unless you look closely at the stems.

And I did not put a keel on my redbird, I wouldn't dream of ruining it.
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